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The Head of People tears the Heads of Robots in this unexpectedly divisive episode

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It's April 1977, and "The Talons of Weng-Chiang" has just finished its controversial run on TV, but in the books, we are back in the height of the Pertwee era, reading the novelization of 1971's "The Claws of Axos".

My conversation this week is with Jan Fennick, a New York-based Doctor Who fan and writer, and a long-time friend of Jason's. We cover lots of ground -- Long Island geography, stories about U.S. Who fandom in the '80s and '90s, and, of course, "Star Trek" and "Twin Peaks".

Jason then brings us home with a glowing discussion of the magic that Terrance Dicks works on the "Axos" novelization -- perhaps not the greatest episode but certainly one of the more fun and involved books. That makes two books in a row where Terrance is really enjoying himself.

You can find Jan's writing in many places, but especially recommended is Red, White and Who, the book on the history of American "Who" fandom, and the forthcoming Outside In Walks With Fire, in which Jan (but not Jason this time) helps analyze the entirety of "Twin Peaks".

We will be back next week with another episode, but in the meantime, don't forget to check out our full archive here.

The Head of People tears the Heads of Robots in this unexpectedly divisive episode

The post N151 Kerblam! appeared first on Who Back When | A Doctor Who Podcast.

The Head of People tears the Heads of Robots in this unexpectedly divisive episode

The post N151 Kerblam! appeared first on Who Back When | A Doctor Who Podcast.

The Head of People tears the Heads of Robots in this unexpectedly divisive episode

The post N151 Kerblam! appeared first on Who Back When | A Doctor Who Podcast.

The Head of People tears the Heads of Robots in this unexpectedly divisive episode

The post N151 Kerblam! appeared first on Who Back When | A Doctor Who Podcast.

The Head of People tears the Heads of Robots in this unexpectedly divisive episode

The post N151 Kerblam! appeared first on Who Back When | A Doctor Who Podcast.

The Head of People tears the Heads of Robots in this unexpectedly divisive episode

The post N151 Kerblam! appeared first on Who Back When | A Doctor Who Podcast.

Welcome to the 21st episode of the podcast we’ve been dropping on the feed every month in between our regular monthly shows.

In today’s podcast, Rob sits down with Paul Hayes, author of The Long Game – 1996-2003: The Inside Story of How the BBC Brought Back Doctor Who, to discuss the letters to Doctor Who Magazine 103, from August of 1985.

This is Doctor Who without a safety net. The conversations could go anywhere the guest wants them to go.

This is Primary Sources.

The Head of People tears the Heads of Robots in this unexpectedly divisive episode

The post N151 Kerblam! appeared first on Who Back When | A Doctor Who Podcast.

Welcome to the 21st episode of the podcast we’ve been dropping on the feed every month in between our regular monthly shows.

In today’s podcast, Rob sits down with Paul Hayes, author of The Long Game – 1996-2003: The Inside Story of How the BBC Brought Back Doctor Who, to discuss the letters to Doctor Who Magazine 103, from August of 1985.

This is Doctor Who without a safety net. The conversations could go anywhere the guest wants them to go.

This is Primary Sources.

Welcome to the 21st episode of the podcast we’ve been dropping on the feed every month in between our regular monthly shows.

In today’s podcast, Rob sits down with Paul Hayes, author of The Long Game – 1996-2003: The Inside Story of How the BBC Brought Back Doctor Who, to discuss the letters to Doctor Who Magazine 103, from August of 1985.

This is Doctor Who without a safety net. The conversations could go anywhere the guest wants them to go.

This is Primary Sources.

Welcome to the 21st episode of the podcast we’ve been dropping on the feed every month in between our regular monthly shows.

In today’s podcast, Rob sits down with Paul Hayes, author of The Long Game – 1996-2003: The Inside Story of How the BBC Brought Back Doctor Who, to discuss the letters to Doctor Who Magazine 103, from August of 1985.

This is Doctor Who without a safety net. The conversations could go anywhere the guest wants them to go.

This is Primary Sources.

Welcome to the 21st episode of the podcast we’ve been dropping on the feed every month in between our regular monthly shows.

In today’s podcast, Rob sits down with Paul Hayes, author of The Long Game – 1996-2003: The Inside Story of How the BBC Brought Back Doctor Who, to discuss the letters to Doctor Who Magazine 103, from August of 1985.

This is Doctor Who without a safety net. The conversations could go anywhere the guest wants them to go.

This is Primary Sources.

Welcome to the 21st episode of the podcast we’ve been dropping on the feed every month in between our regular monthly shows.

In today’s podcast, Rob sits down with Paul Hayes, author of The Long Game – 1996-2003: The Inside Story of How the BBC Brought Back Doctor Who, to discuss the letters to Doctor Who Magazine 103, from August of 1985.

This is Doctor Who without a safety net. The conversations could go anywhere the guest wants them to go.

This is Primary Sources.

The Head of People tears the Heads of Robots in this unexpectedly divisive episode

The post N151 Kerblam! appeared first on Who Back When | A Doctor Who Podcast.

Welcome to the 21st episode of the podcast we’ve been dropping on the feed every month in between our regular monthly shows.

In today’s podcast, Rob sits down with Paul Hayes, author of The Long Game – 1996-2003: The Inside Story of How the BBC Brought Back Doctor Who, to discuss the letters to Doctor Who Magazine 103, from August of 1985.

This is Doctor Who without a safety net. The conversations could go anywhere the guest wants them to go.

This is Primary Sources.

Welcome to the 21st episode of the podcast we’ve been dropping on the feed every month in between our regular monthly shows.

In today’s podcast, Rob sits down with Paul Hayes, author of The Long Game – 1996-2003: The Inside Story of How the BBC Brought Back Doctor Who, to discuss the letters to Doctor Who Magazine 103, from August of 1985.

This is Doctor Who without a safety net. The conversations could go anywhere the guest wants them to go.

This is Primary Sources.

Welcome to the 21st episode of the podcast we’ve been dropping on the feed every month in between our regular monthly shows.

In today’s podcast, Rob sits down with Paul Hayes, author of The Long Game – 1996-2003: The Inside Story of How the BBC Brought Back Doctor Who, to discuss the letters to Doctor Who Magazine 103, from August of 1985.

This is Doctor Who without a safety net. The conversations could go anywhere the guest wants them to go.

This is Primary Sources.

It’s a Sixth Doctor Special! Join Ian, Brent and Phil as they travel back to the 1980s to discuss two much maligned stories from Colin Baker’s era. Have they stood the test of time?! Tune in to find out – shortly after Phil has his say about David Tennant’s return to Doctor Who.

James and Michele take the opportunity to revisit an absolute classic Sixth Doctor story from Big Finish‘s back catalogue and discuss Jubilee. Hard to believe the story is approaching it’s own twentieth anniversary.

As always, we’d love to hear from you about anything Who related. Send an email to us at feedback@thedoctorwhopodcast.com, drop a note to us on Twitter or find us on Facebook.

Enjoy the show.

Welcome to the 21st episode of the podcast we’ve been dropping on the feed every month in between our regular monthly shows.

In today’s podcast, Rob sits down with Paul Hayes, author of The Long Game – 1996-2003: The Inside Story of How the BBC Brought Back Doctor Who, to discuss the letters to Doctor Who Magazine 103, from August of 1985.

This is Doctor Who without a safety net. The conversations could go anywhere the guest wants them to go.

This is Primary Sources.

It’s a Sixth Doctor Special! Join Ian, Brent and Phil as they travel back to the 1980s to discuss two much maligned stories from Colin Baker’s era. Have they stood the test of time?! Tune in to find out – shortly after Phil has his say about David Tennant’s return to Doctor Who.

James and Michele take the opportunity to revisit an absolute classic Sixth Doctor story from Big Finish‘s back catalogue and discuss Jubilee. Hard to believe the story is approaching it’s own twentieth anniversary.

As always, we’d love to hear from you about anything Who related. Send an email to us at feedback@thedoctorwhopodcast.com, drop a note to us on Twitter or find us on Facebook.

Enjoy the show.

It’s a Sixth Doctor Special! Join Ian, Brent and Phil as they travel back to the 1980s to discuss two much maligned stories from Colin Baker’s era. Have they stood the test of time?! Tune in to find out – shortly after Phil has his say about David Tennant’s return to Doctor Who.

James and Michele take the opportunity to revisit an absolute classic Sixth Doctor story from Big Finish‘s back catalogue and discuss Jubilee. Hard to believe the story is approaching it’s own twentieth anniversary.

As always, we’d love to hear from you about anything Who related. Send an email to us at feedback@thedoctorwhopodcast.com, drop a note to us on Twitter or find us on Facebook.

Enjoy the show.

It’s a Sixth Doctor Special! Join Ian, Brent and Phil as they travel back to the 1980s to discuss two much maligned stories from Colin Baker’s era. Have they stood the test of time?! Tune in to find out – shortly after Phil has his say about David Tennant’s return to Doctor Who.

James and Michele take the opportunity to revisit an absolute classic Sixth Doctor story from Big Finish‘s back catalogue and discuss Jubilee. Hard to believe the story is approaching it’s own twentieth anniversary.

As always, we’d love to hear from you about anything Who related. Send an email to us at feedback@thedoctorwhopodcast.com, drop a note to us on Twitter or find us on Facebook.

Enjoy the show.

It’s a Sixth Doctor Special! Join Ian, Brent and Phil as they travel back to the 1980s to discuss two much maligned stories from Colin Baker’s era. Have they stood the test of time?! Tune in to find out – shortly after Phil has his say about David Tennant’s return to Doctor Who.

James and Michele take the opportunity to revisit an absolute classic Sixth Doctor story from Big Finish‘s back catalogue and discuss Jubilee. Hard to believe the story is approaching it’s own twentieth anniversary.

As always, we’d love to hear from you about anything Who related. Send an email to us at feedback@thedoctorwhopodcast.com, drop a note to us on Twitter or find us on Facebook.

Enjoy the show.

It’s a Sixth Doctor Special! Join Ian, Brent and Phil as they travel back to the 1980s to discuss two much maligned stories from Colin Baker’s era. Have they stood the test of time?! Tune in to find out – shortly after Phil has his say about David Tennant’s return to Doctor Who.

James and Michele take the opportunity to revisit an absolute classic Sixth Doctor story from Big Finish‘s back catalogue and discuss Jubilee. Hard to believe the story is approaching it’s own twentieth anniversary.

As always, we’d love to hear from you about anything Who related. Send an email to us at feedback@thedoctorwhopodcast.com, drop a note to us on Twitter or find us on Facebook.

Enjoy the show.

It’s a Sixth Doctor Special! Join Ian, Brent and Phil as they travel back to the 1980s to discuss two much maligned stories from Colin Baker’s era. Have they stood the test of time?! Tune in to find out – shortly after Phil has his say about David Tennant’s return to Doctor Who.

James and Michele take the opportunity to revisit an absolute classic Sixth Doctor story from Big Finish‘s back catalogue and discuss Jubilee. Hard to believe the story is approaching it’s own twentieth anniversary.

As always, we’d love to hear from you about anything Who related. Send an email to us at feedback@thedoctorwhopodcast.com, drop a note to us on Twitter or find us on Facebook.

Enjoy the show.

It’s a Sixth Doctor Special! Join Ian, Brent and Phil as they travel back to the 1980s to discuss two much maligned stories from Colin Baker’s era. Have they stood the test of time?! Tune in to find out – shortly after Phil has his say about David Tennant’s return to Doctor Who.

James and Michele take the opportunity to revisit an absolute classic Sixth Doctor story from Big Finish‘s back catalogue and discuss Jubilee. Hard to believe the story is approaching it’s own twentieth anniversary.

As always, we’d love to hear from you about anything Who related. Send an email to us at feedback@thedoctorwhopodcast.com, drop a note to us on Twitter or find us on Facebook.

Enjoy the show.

It’s a Sixth Doctor Special! Join Ian, Brent and Phil as they travel back to the 1980s to discuss two much maligned stories from Colin Baker’s era. Have they stood the test of time?! Tune in to find out – shortly after Phil has his say about David Tennant’s return to Doctor Who.

James and Michele take the opportunity to revisit an absolute classic Sixth Doctor story from Big Finish‘s back catalogue and discuss Jubilee. Hard to believe the story is approaching it’s own twentieth anniversary.

As always, we’d love to hear from you about anything Who related. Send an email to us at feedback@thedoctorwhopodcast.com, drop a note to us on Twitter or find us on Facebook.

Enjoy the show.

It’s a Sixth Doctor Special! Join Ian, Brent and Phil as they travel back to the 1980s to discuss two much maligned stories from Colin Baker’s era. Have they stood the test of time?! Tune in to find out – shortly after Phil has his say about David Tennant’s return to Doctor Who.

James and Michele take the opportunity to revisit an absolute classic Sixth Doctor story from Big Finish‘s back catalogue and discuss Jubilee. Hard to believe the story is approaching it’s own twentieth anniversary.

As always, we’d love to hear from you about anything Who related. Send an email to us at feedback@thedoctorwhopodcast.com, drop a note to us on Twitter or find us on Facebook.

Enjoy the show.

It’s a Sixth Doctor Special! Join Ian, Brent and Phil as they travel back to the 1980s to discuss two much maligned stories from Colin Baker’s era. Have they stood the test of time?! Tune in to find out – shortly after Phil has his say about David Tennant’s return to Doctor Who.

James and Michele take the opportunity to revisit an absolute classic Sixth Doctor story from Big Finish‘s back catalogue and discuss Jubilee. Hard to believe the story is approaching it’s own twentieth anniversary.

As always, we’d love to hear from you about anything Who related. Send an email to us at feedback@thedoctorwhopodcast.com, drop a note to us on Twitter or find us on Facebook.

Enjoy the show.

It’s a Sixth Doctor Special! Join Ian, Brent and Phil as they travel back to the 1980s to discuss two much maligned stories from Colin Baker’s era. Have they stood the test of time?! Tune in to find out – shortly after Phil has his say about David Tennant’s return to Doctor Who.

James and Michele take the opportunity to revisit an absolute classic Sixth Doctor story from Big Finish‘s back catalogue and discuss Jubilee. Hard to believe the story is approaching it’s own twentieth anniversary.

As always, we’d love to hear from you about anything Who related. Send an email to us at feedback@thedoctorwhopodcast.com, drop a note to us on Twitter or find us on Facebook.

Enjoy the show.

It’s a Sixth Doctor Special! Join Ian, Brent and Phil as they travel back to the 1980s to discuss two much maligned stories from Colin Baker’s era. Have they stood the test of time?! Tune in to find out – shortly after Phil has his say about David Tennant’s return to Doctor Who.

James and Michele take the opportunity to revisit an absolute classic Sixth Doctor story from Big Finish‘s back catalogue and discuss Jubilee. Hard to believe the story is approaching it’s own twentieth anniversary.

As always, we’d love to hear from you about anything Who related. Send an email to us at feedback@thedoctorwhopodcast.com, drop a note to us on Twitter or find us on Facebook.

Enjoy the show.

It’s a Sixth Doctor Special! Join Ian, Brent and Phil as they travel back to the 1980s to discuss two much maligned stories from Colin Baker’s era. Have they stood the test of time?! Tune in to find out – shortly after Phil has his say about David Tennant’s return to Doctor Who.

James and Michele take the opportunity to revisit an absolute classic Sixth Doctor story from Big Finish‘s back catalogue and discuss Jubilee. Hard to believe the story is approaching it’s own twentieth anniversary.

As always, we’d love to hear from you about anything Who related. Send an email to us at feedback@thedoctorwhopodcast.com, drop a note to us on Twitter or find us on Facebook.

Enjoy the show.

It’s a Sixth Doctor Special! Join Ian, Brent and Phil as they travel back to the 1980s to discuss two much maligned stories from Colin Baker’s era. Have they stood the test of time?! Tune in to find out – shortly after Phil has his say about David Tennant’s return to Doctor Who.

James and Michele take the opportunity to revisit an absolute classic Sixth Doctor story from Big Finish‘s back catalogue and discuss Jubilee. Hard to believe the story is approaching it’s own twentieth anniversary.

As always, we’d love to hear from you about anything Who related. Send an email to us at feedback@thedoctorwhopodcast.com, drop a note to us on Twitter or find us on Facebook.

Enjoy the show.

It’s a Sixth Doctor Special! Join Ian, Brent and Phil as they travel back to the 1980s to discuss two much maligned stories from Colin Baker’s era. Have they stood the test of time?! Tune in to find out – shortly after Phil has his say about David Tennant’s return to Doctor Who.

James and Michele take the opportunity to revisit an absolute classic Sixth Doctor story from Big Finish‘s back catalogue and discuss Jubilee. Hard to believe the story is approaching it’s own twentieth anniversary.

As always, we’d love to hear from you about anything Who related. Send an email to us at feedback@thedoctorwhopodcast.com, drop a note to us on Twitter or find us on Facebook.

Enjoy the show.

It’s a Sixth Doctor Special! Join Ian, Brent and Phil as they travel back to the 1980s to discuss two much maligned stories from Colin Baker’s era. Have they stood the test of time?! Tune in to find out – shortly after Phil has his say about David Tennant’s return to Doctor Who.

James and Michele take the opportunity to revisit an absolute classic Sixth Doctor story from Big Finish‘s back catalogue and discuss Jubilee. Hard to believe the story is approaching it’s own twentieth anniversary.

As always, we’d love to hear from you about anything Who related. Send an email to us at feedback@thedoctorwhopodcast.com, drop a note to us on Twitter or find us on Facebook.

Enjoy the show.

It’s a Sixth Doctor Special! Join Ian, Brent and Phil as they travel back to the 1980s to discuss two much maligned stories from Colin Baker’s era. Have they stood the test of time?! Tune in to find out – shortly after Phil has his say about David Tennant’s return to Doctor Who.

James and Michele take the opportunity to revisit an absolute classic Sixth Doctor story from Big Finish‘s back catalogue and discuss Jubilee. Hard to believe the story is approaching it’s own twentieth anniversary.

As always, we’d love to hear from you about anything Who related. Send an email to us at feedback@thedoctorwhopodcast.com, drop a note to us on Twitter or find us on Facebook.

Enjoy the show.

It’s a Sixth Doctor Special! Join Ian, Brent and Phil as they travel back to the 1980s to discuss two much maligned stories from Colin Baker’s era. Have they stood the test of time?! Tune in to find out – shortly after Phil has his say about David Tennant’s return to Doctor Who.

James and Michele take the opportunity to revisit an absolute classic Sixth Doctor story from Big Finish‘s back catalogue and discuss Jubilee. Hard to believe the story is approaching it’s own twentieth anniversary.

As always, we’d love to hear from you about anything Who related. Send an email to us at feedback@thedoctorwhopodcast.com, drop a note to us on Twitter or find us on Facebook.

Enjoy the show.

It’s a Sixth Doctor Special! Join Ian, Brent and Phil as they travel back to the 1980s to discuss two much maligned stories from Colin Baker’s era. Have they stood the test of time?! Tune in to find out – shortly after Phil has his say about David Tennant’s return to Doctor Who.

James and Michele take the opportunity to revisit an absolute classic Sixth Doctor story from Big Finish‘s back catalogue and discuss Jubilee. Hard to believe the story is approaching it’s own twentieth anniversary.

As always, we’d love to hear from you about anything Who related. Send an email to us at feedback@thedoctorwhopodcast.com, drop a note to us on Twitter or find us on Facebook.

Enjoy the show.

It’s a Sixth Doctor Special! Join Ian, Brent and Phil as they travel back to the 1980s to discuss two much maligned stories from Colin Baker’s era. Have they stood the test of time?! Tune in to find out – shortly after Phil has his say about David Tennant’s return to Doctor Who.

James and Michele take the opportunity to revisit an absolute classic Sixth Doctor story from Big Finish‘s back catalogue and discuss Jubilee. Hard to believe the story is approaching it’s own twentieth anniversary.

As always, we’d love to hear from you about anything Who related. Send an email to us at feedback@thedoctorwhopodcast.com, drop a note to us on Twitter or find us on Facebook.

Enjoy the show.

It’s a Sixth Doctor Special! Join Ian, Brent and Phil as they travel back to the 1980s to discuss two much maligned stories from Colin Baker’s era. Have they stood the test of time?! Tune in to find out – shortly after Phil has his say about David Tennant’s return to Doctor Who.

James and Michele take the opportunity to revisit an absolute classic Sixth Doctor story from Big Finish‘s back catalogue and discuss Jubilee. Hard to believe the story is approaching it’s own twentieth anniversary.

As always, we’d love to hear from you about anything Who related. Send an email to us at feedback@thedoctorwhopodcast.com, drop a note to us on Twitter or find us on Facebook.

Enjoy the show.

It’s a Sixth Doctor Special! Join Ian, Brent and Phil as they travel back to the 1980s to discuss two much maligned stories from Colin Baker’s era. Have they stood the test of time?! Tune in to find out – shortly after Phil has his say about David Tennant’s return to Doctor Who.

James and Michele take the opportunity to revisit an absolute classic Sixth Doctor story from Big Finish‘s back catalogue and discuss Jubilee. Hard to believe the story is approaching it’s own twentieth anniversary.

As always, we’d love to hear from you about anything Who related. Send an email to us at feedback@thedoctorwhopodcast.com, drop a note to us on Twitter or find us on Facebook.

Enjoy the show.

It’s a Sixth Doctor Special! Join Ian, Brent and Phil as they travel back to the 1980s to discuss two much maligned stories from Colin Baker’s era. Have they stood the test of time?! Tune in to find out – shortly after Phil has his say about David Tennant’s return to Doctor Who.

James and Michele take the opportunity to revisit an absolute classic Sixth Doctor story from Big Finish‘s back catalogue and discuss Jubilee. Hard to believe the story is approaching it’s own twentieth anniversary.

As always, we’d love to hear from you about anything Who related. Send an email to us at feedback@thedoctorwhopodcast.com, drop a note to us on Twitter or find us on Facebook.

Enjoy the show.

It’s a Sixth Doctor Special! Join Ian, Brent and Phil as they travel back to the 1980s to discuss two much maligned stories from Colin Baker’s era. Have they stood the test of time?! Tune in to find out – shortly after Phil has his say about David Tennant’s return to Doctor Who.

James and Michele take the opportunity to revisit an absolute classic Sixth Doctor story from Big Finish‘s back catalogue and discuss Jubilee. Hard to believe the story is approaching it’s own twentieth anniversary.

As always, we’d love to hear from you about anything Who related. Send an email to us at feedback@thedoctorwhopodcast.com, drop a note to us on Twitter or find us on Facebook.

Enjoy the show.

It’s a Sixth Doctor Special! Join Ian, Brent and Phil as they travel back to the 1980s to discuss two much maligned stories from Colin Baker’s era. Have they stood the test of time?! Tune in to find out – shortly after Phil has his say about David Tennant’s return to Doctor Who.

James and Michele take the opportunity to revisit an absolute classic Sixth Doctor story from Big Finish‘s back catalogue and discuss Jubilee. Hard to believe the story is approaching it’s own twentieth anniversary.

As always, we’d love to hear from you about anything Who related. Send an email to us at feedback@thedoctorwhopodcast.com, drop a note to us on Twitter or find us on Facebook.

Enjoy the show.

It’s a Sixth Doctor Special! Join Ian, Brent and Phil as they travel back to the 1980s to discuss two much maligned stories from Colin Baker’s era. Have they stood the test of time?! Tune in to find out – shortly after Phil has his say about David Tennant’s return to Doctor Who.

James and Michele take the opportunity to revisit an absolute classic Sixth Doctor story from Big Finish‘s back catalogue and discuss Jubilee. Hard to believe the story is approaching it’s own twentieth anniversary.

As always, we’d love to hear from you about anything Who related. Send an email to us at feedback@thedoctorwhopodcast.com, drop a note to us on Twitter or find us on Facebook.

Enjoy the show.

Ross and Vic get together to talk the merist of the Series 2 episode Fear Her.  It's an episode that is not highly thought about. Is it as bad as all that. They don't think so.  There is nothing to fear in this episode 

It’s a Sixth Doctor Special! Join Ian, Brent and Phil as they travel back to the 1980s to discuss two much maligned stories from Colin Baker’s era. Have they stood the test of time?! Tune in to find out – shortly after Phil has his say about David Tennant’s return to Doctor Who.

James and Michele take the opportunity to revisit an absolute classic Sixth Doctor story from Big Finish‘s back catalogue and discuss Jubilee. Hard to believe the story is approaching it’s own twentieth anniversary.

As always, we’d love to hear from you about anything Who related. Send an email to us at feedback@thedoctorwhopodcast.com, drop a note to us on Twitter or find us on Facebook.

Enjoy the show.

Ross and Vic get together to talk the merist of the Series 2 episode Fear Her.  It's an episode that is not highly thought about. Is it as bad as all that. They don't think so.  There is nothing to fear in this episode