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The Power of The Power of Kroll
Radio Free SkaroCast your minds back to the early days of Radio Free Skaro when there just hosts, Steven and Warren, and they would press record and then plan what they were going to talk about? Well, this episode is a throwback to those pre-smartphone days of the podcast, with Steven and Warren convening in a hotel room in San Jose, CA (home of WorldCon 76), along with guests Jason Snell, Helene Wecker, and Erika Ensign, to talk about how Doctor Who became a part of our lives, and where the show is going from here. What better way to celebrate our twelfth anniversary!
Guests:
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DWBRcast 206 - Série Clássica: The Invasion!
DWBRcastEm The Invasion, terceiro arco da 6ª temporada da série clássica, com o 2º Doutor, Jamie e Zoe introduz uma das organizações que a gente mais ama em Doctor Who: a UNIT! Junto do Brigadeiro Lethbridge-Stewart e seus homens, a turma precisar acabar com a ameaça dos Cybermen, que planeja invadir nosso planeta com o ajuda do malvado Tobian Vaughn e seu homem de confiança, Packer!
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The Lost Episode - New Year's Day, Heroes, and Doctor Who
Discussing WhoHappy New Year….wait…no, that’s not right!?! Still reeling from our review of ‘Fear Her’, we take a moment to prepare for the 2006 finale. In the meantime, what once was lost has now been found. On January 01, 2018, we recorded a discussion on all things Doctor Who, plus a bit of comic book history, with author/illustrator, Bret M. Herholz. Unfortunately, the audio was thought lost. Join us as we take a trip back to the hours before Twice Upon A Time aired in the US. Hosted by Kyle Jones and Lee Shackleford, with special guest Bret M. Herholz.

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Our Hosts on Other Shows
Want more from the Discussing Who co-hosts? Our hosts can be found on the following:
Doctor Who: Podshock (Kyle & Lee)
The TechPedition Podcast (Clarence)
The Relativity Podcast (Lee & Clarence)
Discussing Trek: A Star Trek Discovery Podcast (Clarence & Kyle)
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DWBRcast 206 - Série Clássica: The Invasion!
DWBRcastEm The Invasion, terceiro arco da 6ª temporada da série clássica, com o 2º Doutor, Jamie e Zoe introduz uma das organizações que a gente mais ama em Doctor Who: a UNIT! Junto do Brigadeiro Lethbridge-Stewart e seus homens, a turma precisar acabar com a ameaça dos Cybermen, que planeja invadir nosso planeta com o ajuda do malvado Tobian Vaughn e seu homem de confiança, Packer!
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The Lost Episode - New Year's Day, Heroes, and Doctor Who
Discussing WhoHappy New Year....wait...no, that's not right!?! Still reeling from our review of 'Fear Her', we take a moment to prepare for the 2006 finale. In the meantime, what once was lost has now been found. On January 01, 2018, we recorded a discussion on all things Doctor Who, plus a bit of comic book history, with author/illustrator, Bret M. Herholz. Unfortunately, the audio was thought lost. Join us as we take a trip back to the hours before Twice Upon A Time aired in the US. Hosted by Kyle Jones and Lee Shackleford, with special guest Bret Herholz.
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DWBRcast 206 - Série Clássica: The Invasion!
DWBRcastEm The Invasion, terceiro arco da 6ª temporada da série clássica, com o 2º Doutor, Jamie e Zoe introduz uma das organizações que a gente mais ama em Doctor Who: a UNIT! Junto do Brigadeiro Lethbridge-Stewart e seus homens, a turma precisar acabar com a ameaça dos Cybermen, que planeja invadir nosso planeta com o ajuda do malvado Tobian Vaughn e seu homem de confiança, Packer!
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#129 My 70s Batman Childhood
WHO 37 - A Doctor Who Podcast... in which our fearless podcaster presents a special preview of his new podcast, "BAT 77 - My 70s Batman Childhood", coming soon to an RSS feed near you.
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DWBRcast 206 - Série Clássica: The Invasion!
DWBRcastEm The Invasion, terceiro arco da 6ª temporada da série clássica, com o 2º Doutor, Jamie e Zoe introduz uma das organizações que a gente mais ama em Doctor Who: a UNIT! Junto do Brigadeiro Lethbridge-Stewart e seus homens, a turma precisar acabar com a ameaça dos Cybermen, que planeja invadir nosso planeta com o ajuda do malvado Tobian Vaughn e seu homem de confiança, Packer!
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#129 My 70s Batman Childhood
WHO 37 - A Doctor Who Podcast... in which our fearless podcaster presents a special preview of his new podcast, "BAT 77 - My 70s Batman Childhood", coming soon to an RSS feed near you.
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Praxeus
Trap One: A Doctor Who PodcastKate (@KateCol17), Simon (@daddaughterdr) and Mark (@QuarkMcMalus) discuss Doctor Who series 12, episode 6: Praxeus.
Find Simon's brilliant blog about watching Doctor Who with his daughter here.
Kate has written for The Untold Adventures (@ClaraOswaldTUA).
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Episode 213: Dart in the Dartboard of History
Trust Your DoctorReally want to know how to play darts, honestly.
The angels are back. River Song is back. Stephen Moffat is already doing the “Greatest Hits of Stephen Moffat” and it’s first season and like fourth story. Good start. It’s The Time of Angels & Flesh and Stone, written by Stephen Moffat and aired on April 24, and May 1, 2010.
Show-notes:
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The Doctor Who title music was originally composed by Ron Grainer. The version used in this episode was arranged by Murray Gold.Subscribe on Apple Podcasts!
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GSN PODCAST: Grouchy Old Geeks : Episode 28
Geek SyndicateThis month Steve and Scott start with some news and reviews, covering new TV, movies and comics. For our main feature we focus on Patrick Stewart, primarily because he recently announced that he would be returning to the role of Jean-Luc Picard from Star Trek: The Next Generation. We discuss the news, where it might go but also some of his other roles, those well known and our earliest memories of him as an actor.
To talk about this episode and any other episode you can visit the Grouchy Old Geeks Facebook Group. If you would like to get in touch you can email us on grouchyoldgeeks[at]gmail[dot] com or you could leave a review on iTunes.
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Season 12 Feedback Special Part 1
The Doctor Who PodcastJoin Stephen, Michele and Ian for a special episode of the DWP as they delve into the bulging DWP mailbox and talk about what YOU think of Season 12 of Doctor Who so far! It’s always great to hear the thoughts and theories of of our wonderful listeners out there in DWP podcastland . Keep your feedback rolling in – we want to know what you think of the show, or indeed what you make of the inane bafflegab the DWP Team espouse on a weekly basis!
Email us at feedback@thedoctorwhopodcast.com, reach us on Twitter or search up our Facebook page.
Enjoy the show.
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Season 12 Feedback Special
The Doctor Who PodcastJoin Stephen, Michele and Ian for a special episode of the DWP as they delve into the bulging DWP mailbox and talk about what YOU think of Season 12 of Doctor Who so far! It’s always great to hear the thoughts and theories of of our wonderful listeners out there in DWP podcastland . Keep your feedback rolling in – we want to know what you think of the show, or indeed what you make of the inane bafflegab the DWP Team espouse on a weekly basis!
Email us at feedback@thedoctorwhopodcast.com, reach us on Twitter or search up our Facebook page.
Enjoy the show.
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Season 12 Feedback Special
The Doctor Who PodcastJoin Stephen, Michele and Ian for a special episode of the DWP as they delve into the bulging DWP mailbox and talk about what YOU think of Season 12 of Doctor Who so far! It’s always great to hear the thoughts and theories of of our wonderful listeners out there in DWP podcastland . Keep your feedback rolling in – we want to know what you think of the show, or indeed what you make of the inane bafflegab the DWP Team espouse on a weekly basis!
Email us at feedback@thedoctorwhopodcast.com, reach us on Twitter or search up our Facebook page.
Enjoy the show.
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GSN PODCAST: Grouchy Old Geeks : Episode 28
Geek SyndicateThis month Steve and Scott start with some news and reviews, covering new TV, movies and comics. For our main feature we focus on Patrick Stewart, primarily because he recently announced that he would be returning to the role of Jean-Luc Picard from Star Trek: The Next Generation. We discuss the news, where it might go but also some of his other roles, those well known and our earliest memories of him as an actor.
To talk about this episode and any other episode you can visit the Grouchy Old Geeks Facebook Group. If you would like to get in touch you can email us on grouchyoldgeeks[at]gmail[dot] com or you could leave a review on iTunes.
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Episode 12: Dys-Praxeus
Something WhoSimon and Giles are back with Richard for a quick chat about the latest Doctor Who story, Praxeus. It's fair to say that opinions were mixed, but we still had some fun with it.
Please like or share our podcast with people who will enjoy it. We may have maxed out our free use of ratethispodcast.com, but you can still rate us directly on Apple Podcasts or Podchaser.com
The opening music is Three Guitars Mood 2 and the closing music is possibly the worst ever version of the Doctor Who theme from Richard on ukulele and kazoo.
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The Enemy of the World 3-4
Lazy Doctor WhoPP (3-4)
Steven and Erika bring you greetings from Worldcon 76 in San Jose, California, where it’s time for some hotel-based Doctor Who viewing. Because we know how to party at a con.
Host Erika Ensign and Steven Schapansky
Support this show and other shows like it on The Incomparable network by becoming a member. Members get early access to podcasts, bonus episodes, and more.
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163 - Death by Plastic
Doctor WhoochIn which we regret using "sledgehammer" to describe a previous episode. If only we had known.
On this week's show, Danica and Brandon worry about a poor man who is left for dead on a beach. Also, they talk in depth about Praxeus, and why subtly might not be a good thing these days.
Outro is "Everywhere" by Michelle Branch.
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The Enemy of the World 3-4
Lazy Doctor WhoSteven and Erika bring you greetings from Worldcon 76 in San Jose, California, where it’s time for some hotel-based Doctor Who viewing. Because we know how to party at a con.
PP (3-4)
Erika Ensign and Steven Schapansky
Support this show and other shows like it on The Incomparable network by becoming a member. Members get early access to podcasts, bonus episodes, and more.
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163 - Death by Plastic
Doctor WhoochIn which we regret using "sledgehammer" to describe a previous episode. If only we had known.
On this week's show, Danica and Brandon worry about a poor man who is left for dead on a beach. Also, they talk in depth about Praxeus, and why subtly might not be a good thing these days.
Outro is "Everywhere" by Michelle Branch.
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Recap - The Wonderful Wizard of Oz
Crossover Adventure ProductionsWith the new season of The Chronicles of Oz about to drop NEXT WEEK, we thought it would be a good opportunity to revisit the first season, The Wonderful Wizard of Oz, based on the book by L Frank Baum. Of course, not all of us have time to listen to all six episodes (but we really recommend you do). So if you're time-pressed, here's a quick recap of what happened in Season One.
Keep your podcast catchers at the ready, Season Two is about to start...
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Doctor Who Time and Space (352)
Doctor Who Time and Space
Dr Cool and Lewis Moon return for their review of the sixth episode of series 12, Praxeus, but following on from a story that proved to be game changing and flipped the entire whoniverse on its head, will this story live up to their rising expectations of the Whittaker era? Time to find out...
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Recap - The Wonderful Wizard of Oz
Crossover Adventure ProductionsWith the new season of The Chronicles of Oz about to drop NEXT WEEK, we thought it would be a good opportunity to revisit the first season, The Wonderful Wizard of Oz, based on the book by L Frank Baum. Of course, not all of us have time to listen to all six episodes (but we really recommend you do). So if you're time-pressed, here's a quick recap of what happened in Season One.
Keep your podcast catchers at the ready, Season Two is about to start...
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Whocast #407 – The Lamb lies down on Herzilein
Whocast.de (Deutsche)…and then there were three… denn zwei (Kerle wie wir) sind einfach nicht genug für die Besprechung dieser Folge. Auch wenn sich der ein oder andere “ist das nicht himmlisch” gedacht haben mag, gesellt sich Harald per Fernschalte (denn am schönsten ist es Daheim) zum ersten Mal in dieser Staffel als moralische Unterstützung zu uns, weil wir Freunde sind, und diese lässt man ja in der Not nicht allein. So sehr wir uns von ganzem Herzen gewünscht hätten, dass uns die 5. Folge der 12. Staffel Doctor Who mit dem Titel “Fugitive of the Judoon” zu Freudentänzen anspornt, müssen wir leider feststellen: “We can’t Dance“, denn es reicht nicht einmal zu einem öden Foxtrot. So bleibt am Ende des Tages, an dem England aus der EU ausgetreten ist, nicht nur ein “Selling England by the pound” festzuhalten, sondern auch ein sehr trauriges “Selling Doctor Who by the Pound”. In diesem Sinne ...calling all stations…
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Doctor Who Time And Space (277)
Doctor Who Time and Space
It's time for a second and final solo episode of doctor who time and space as D-Cool just misses the chance to be on the show! However, Lewis Moon is here with the usual array of features, news and reviews, this time ranking every series from new who and classic who from best to worst before crowning an overall winner, reviewing the second part of the sontarans return two parter the Poison Sky and discussing the latest news from the last seven days in the doctor who universe.
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Whocast #407 – The Lamb lies down on Herzilein
Whocast.de (Deutsche)…and then there were three… denn zwei (Kerle wie wir) sind einfach nicht genug für die Besprechung dieser Folge. Auch wenn sich der ein oder andere “ist das nicht himmlisch” gedacht haben mag, gesellt sich Harald per Fernschalte (denn am schönsten ist es Daheim) zum ersten Mal in dieser Staffel als moralische Unterstützung zu uns, weil wir Freunde sind, und diese lässt man ja in der Not nicht allein. So sehr wir uns von ganzem Herzen gewünscht hätten, dass uns die 5. Folge der 12. Staffel Doctor Who mit dem Titel “Fugitive of the Judoon” zu Freudentänzen anspornt, müssen wir leider feststellen: “We can’t Dance“, denn es reicht nicht einmal zu einem öden Foxtrot. So bleibt am Ende des Tages, an dem England aus der EU ausgetreten ist, nicht nur ein “Selling England by the pound” festzuhalten, sondern auch ein sehr trauriges “Selling Doctor Who by the Pound”. In diesem Sinne ...calling all stations…
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12th Doctor & 12th Season
Trap One: A Doctor Who PodcastJason McLaughlin (@jangomac72) returns to the podcast to discuss LFCC and the Doctor Who season 12 Blu-ray box set.
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Whocast #407 – The Lamb lies down on Herzilein
Whocast.de (Deutsche)…and then there were three… denn zwei (Kerle wie wir) sind einfach nicht genug für die Besprechung dieser Folge. Auch wenn sich der ein oder andere “ist das nicht himmlisch” gedacht haben mag, gesellt sich Harald per Fernschalte (denn am schönsten ist es Daheim) zum ersten Mal in dieser Staffel als moralische Unterstützung zu uns, weil wir Freunde sind, und diese lässt man ja in der Not nicht allein. So sehr wir uns von ganzem Herzen gewünscht hätten, dass uns die 5. Folge der 12. Staffel Doctor Who mit dem Titel “Fugitive of the Judoon” zu Freudentänzen anspornt, müssen wir leider feststellen: “We can’t Dance“, denn es reicht nicht einmal zu einem öden Foxtrot. So bleibt am Ende des Tages, an dem England aus der EU ausgetreten ist, nicht nur ein “Selling England by the pound” festzuhalten, sondern auch ein sehr trauriges “Selling Doctor Who by the Pound”. In diesem Sinne ...calling all stations…
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12th Doctor & 12th Season
Trap One: A Doctor Who PodcastJason McLaughlin (@jangomac72) returns to the podcast to discuss LFCC and the Doctor Who season 12 Blu-ray box set.
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12th Doctor & 12th Season
Trap One: A Doctor Who PodcastJason McLaughlin (@jangomac72) returns to the podcast to discuss LFCC and the Doctor Who season 12 Blu-ray box set.
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Episode 292: Praxeus
Wanderers in the 4th Dimension: A Journey Through Doctor WhoOn this week's podcast, the Doctor and friends investigate three mysteries on Earth in three different places. What could they all have in common?
QotW: You ordered a latte from All Ears Allan. What Doctor Who character do you request he depict in the latte art, and who (or what) do you actually end up with?
So Here are the Things.../Listener Mailbag/Who News
Discussion of "Praxeus" (Connor 7.25, David 7.5, Trevor 8, Charlie 7)
Big Finish: The Legacy of Time: Relative Time (David 6.5, Trevor 7, Charlie 6.5)
Hosts:
- Trevor @WhovianTrev Trevsplace
- Charlie @insanityinchaos The Comic Conspiracy
- David http://www.davidsafar.com/ @gwythinn MaroonedWhovian
- Connor YouTube: The Deadly Emerald
Join us next week for our review of Doctor Who story #293, Can You Hear Me?! Please view the episode in accordance with all applicable laws. Our audio adventure will be The Legacy of Time: The Avenues of Possibility, available from BigFinish.com.
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Season 12 Blu-ray
Trap One: A Doctor Who PodcastJason McClaughlin (@Jangomac72) returns to the podcast to talk LFCC and the Doctor Who season 12 Blu-ray box set.
Show notes here.
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Episode 292: Praxeus
Wanderers in the 4th Dimension: A Journey Through Doctor WhoOn this week's podcast, the Doctor and friends investigate three mysteries on Earth in three different places. What could they all have in common?
QotW: You ordered a latte from All Ears Allan. What Doctor Who character do you request he depict in the latte art, and who (or what) do you actually end up with?
So Here are the Things.../Listener Mailbag/Who News
Discussion of "Praxeus" (Connor 7.25, David 7.5, Trevor 8, Charlie 7)
Big Finish: The Legacy of Time: Relative Time (David 6.5, Trevor 7, Charlie 6.5)
Hosts:
- Trevor @WhovianTrev Trevsplace
- Charlie @insanityinchaos The Comic Conspiracy
- David http://www.davidsafar.com/ @gwythinn MaroonedWhovian
- Connor YouTube: The Deadly Emerald
Join us next week for our review of Doctor Who story #293, Can You Hear Me?! Please view the episode in accordance with all applicable laws. Our audio adventure will be The Legacy of Time: The Avenues of Possibility, available from BigFinish.com.
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Episode 459 – Three Idiots Roaming
Traveling the Vortex
In this week’s episode, we review Series 12, Episode 6 – Praxeus. Find out what we thought of this episode. And we discover a new and apter name for this podcast.Plus, a look at some news from the week.
And, of course, your feedback.
Enjoy!
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Episode 459 – Three Idiots Roaming
Traveling the Vortex
In this week’s episode, we review Series 12, Episode 6 – Praxeus. Find out what we thought of this episode. And we discover a new and apter name for this podcast.Plus, a look at some news from the week.
And, of course, your feedback.
Enjoy!
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Tim's Take On: Episode 449(Doctor Who:Pyramids of Mars mini review)
Tim's Take On...This week my classic series re-watch reaches Doctor Who: Pyramids of Mars.
End Theme: Dr Who(Gypsy Guitar) by Thrip
The show is now on Facebook please join the group for exclusive behind the scenes insights and of course also discuss and feedback on the show https://www.facebook.com/groups/187162411486307/ If you want to send me comments or feedback you can email them to tdrury2003@yahoo.co.uk or contact me on twitter where I'm @tdrury or send me a friend request and your comments to facebook where I'm Tim Drury and look like this http://www.flickr.com/photos/tdrury/3711029536/in/set-72157621161239599/ in case you were wondering.
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Praxeus
Gallifrey Public Radio - A Doctor Who PodcastWe dissect the sixth episode of Series 12, and find that there's a time and a place for a proper "breather episode" amidst all the uproar.
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Tim's Take On: Episode 449(Doctor Who:Pyramids of Mars mini review)
Tim's Take On...This week my classic series re-watch reaches Doctor Who: Pyramids of Mars.
End Theme: Dr Who(Gypsy Guitar) by Thrip
The show is now on Facebook please join the group for exclusive behind the scenes insights and of course also discuss and feedback on the show https://www.facebook.com/groups/187162411486307/ If you want to send me comments or feedback you can email them to tdrury2003@yahoo.co.uk or contact me on twitter where I'm @tdrury or send me a friend request and your comments to facebook where I'm Tim Drury and look like this http://www.flickr.com/photos/tdrury/3711029536/in/set-72157621161239599/ in case you were wondering.
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Praxeus
Gallifrey Public Radio - A Doctor Who PodcastWe dissect the sixth episode of Series 12, and find that there's a time and a place for a proper "breather episode" amidst all the uproar.
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Episode 393 - The Destruction of the Podcast
Traveling the Vortex
At last we conclude our ‘Master Plan of the Daleks’ Master Plan’ with the last four stories in this epic arc, Golden Death, Escape Switch, The Abandoned Planet and The Destruction of Time. Hear what we thought of the conclusion of the story.And some news about another leak this week.
Plus, your feedback.
Enjoy!
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CRRRaSh! 299 Doctor Who: The Green Death (1973)
Roy's Rocket RadioThe revisit continues!
Show Notes: https://roymathur.com/podcast/2020-02-04-captain-roys-rocket-radio-show.html
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Episode 393 – The Destruction of the Podcast
Traveling the Vortex
At last we conclude our ‘Master Plan of the Daleks’ Master Plan’ with the last four stories in this epic arc, Golden Death, Escape Switch, The Abandoned Planet and The Destruction of Time. Hear what we thought of the conclusion of the story.And some news about another leak this week.
Plus, your feedback.
Enjoy!
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CRRRaSh! 299 Doctor Who: The Green Death (1973)
Roy's Rocket RadioThe revisit continues!
Show Notes: https://roymathur.com/podcast/2020-02-04-captain-roys-rocket-radio-show.html
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Lets float down to Peru
Who's He?In this edition of the Who's He? Podcast.....
The News
Good news for blu ray fans as season 12 finally gets a re-release and news of Jodie Whittaker staying on for another season but we may have to wait a long time for it.
Omega's Stats Corner
Its the overnight viewing figures for Praxeus and the final viewing figures for Fugitive of the Judoon.
Omega's Tat Corner
This week it's baking tat and a very expensive item from Rubbertoe Replicas that will bring a tear to your eye.
Review - Praxeus
This week Phil and Paul discuss Praxeus, the latest episode of Doctor Who. After last weeks game changing episode we return to another story with an eco message. So did this weeks story give off zero emissions or was it as welcome as Greta Thunberg at a British Petroleum annual general meeting? Listen to find the lads discussion and also what the listeners thought in our Listener Feedback section.
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Lets float down to Peru
Who's He?In this edition of the Who's He? Podcast.....
The News
Good news for blu ray fans as season 12 finally gets a re-release and news of Jodie Whittaker staying on for another season but we may have to wait a long time for it.
Omega's Stats Corner
Its the overnight viewing figures for Praxeus and the final viewing figures for Fugitive of the Judoon.
Omega's Tat Corner
This week it's baking tat and a very expensive item from Rubbertoe Replicas that will bring a tear to your eye.
Review - Praxeus
This week Phil and Paul discuss Praxeus, the latest episode of Doctor Who. After last weeks game changing episode we return to another story with an eco message. So did this weeks story give off zero emissions or was it as welcome as Greta Thunberg at a British Petroleum annual general meeting? Listen to find the lads discussion and also what the listeners thought in our Listener Feedback section.

